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59. Bipolar and Loud

Are things actually changing?

Today’s podcast episode is with Phil Schofield (not that one), CEO of Ripple, a SharePoint software company. Phil describes himself as ‘bipolar and loud’, openly speaking about, and being an advocate for, mental health.

Phil describes how his work/life balance has shifted, the day-to-day of his mental health and how he views it as systems driven and being better because of, rather than in spite of, his mental health.

Also discussed:

(1:12) Introductions

(7:00) Moving away from the misconceptions of mental health and focus on specific disorders

(10:00) Phil’s mental health day-to-day (specifically in lockdown/working from home), the stresses of usually mundane things and trying to adapt, having kids at home and how hours have changed

(15:23) The difference in working hours in a team and how to communicate these differences, expectations of the new working situation

(22:50) Managing work/life balance, basic mental health upkeep, the difference levels of experience with isolation

(29:59) The difficulties of physical distance, how mental health can be classed as ‘work’

(35:53) Phil’s routine and how he manages his mental health, how our mental health can affect those around us

(43:28) Online dates/video calls, re-socialising and the societal impact of coronavirus

(51:55) Seeing mental health as systems driven and the issues that may arise

(1:00:03) Being better because of, rather than in spite of, mental health

(1:03:10) Attempting to hire apprentices and the hiring process, how indecision is affecting people, being proactive about mental health

(1:10:01) How work is changing and if it will stick upon lockdown being lifted, adopting an integrated lifestyle

(1:18:50) Finding positives, changes that may be made around the NHS, making conscious decisions

(1:26:27) How things like food purchases will be looked at differently from now on

(1:32:29) Prioritising different things and the way we approach things, workplace culture, good habits coming from change and whether it will be long lasting, metaphors for mental health

(1:47:17) Reframing situations

(1:49:36) Closing comments

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